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I need your help to ID this one please, I rescued it from my mother in laws garden where it was not doing to well. The psuedobulbs are approx 30cm high, and the flowers are a cluster of 5 to 7. The flower has a waxy look to it and is quite fragrant during the day.

unknown

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Score: 8.3, Votes: 3

No ID

No offers on the ID of this one yet? Thats not like you guys, you are usually on to these straight away.

Davo

Expert

Hi Davo, I'm not an expert on the Cattleya family but looking at some of the post that have been put up on OOL I think your plant is Cattlianthe Chocolate Drop. If it isn't it is a start for some discussion.

Pawpaw

Hybrid ID

Definitely not Cattleyanthe Chocolate Drop!!

All Cattleyanthe Chocolate Drop I know are orange or are orange red.
Davo, your plant is showing to much purple. Your plant may have Cattleyanthe Chocolate Drops in it's background and got later on the input of a purple hybrid.

Or it is an other primary hybrid with Cattleya guttata or Cattleya tigrina as one of the parents.

As I mentioned before, in the Cattleya family it is almost impossible to identify a plant without any doubt only with an image. Having the plant in front of an expert the chances are slightly bigger when we look at a primary hybrid. Involving only one more species or an other primary hybrid even an expert will use only the word maybe. And why is that the case?
Up to now where made hundreds of thousands of hybrids. Some of the hybrids have a family tree with 20 to 30 hybrids and maybe 15 different species involved. Wherever a multiple hybrid came in to the family tree the possibilities to get different shapes and color combinations are in the thousands maybe in the millions. Wherever an other primary hybrid or an other species came in to the family tree the possibilities to get different shapes and color combinations are in the hundreds or maybe in the thousands.

What we can do in the case of Davos plant?
* We can point out the possibilities.
* We can give our opinion.
* We can help to find similar plants.
* We can track down old price lists were similar hybrids or clones has been offered.
With other words we can sort out the possibilities and get as close as possible. But that's all!

To all OOL members:
Forgive me to be insistent in this matter. In a case like this you will get no identification without any doubt. You will get a maybe identification. You will get a 'I think' identification. You will get a comment like: 'This plant looks like the plant from node #1234.' etc.

It exist only one exception. When your plant is a clone the chances to be identified are much better. Specially when the clone has a distinct color pattern.

Sorry folks. That's the curse of a hybrid with no ID.

Same thoughts

Yes I was having the same thoughts, that this is Cattlianthe, I have checked Chocolate Drop, but although they appear the same, there is colour difference in the centre of the flower around the column, the Chocolate Drop posted on the site has some yellow to it, and others I have checked out all seem to have the yellow.

Davo

I have a mini purple x

I have a mini purple x chocolate drop that looks the same(i dont know how to post photos though).

unknown

looks somewhat like Blc Netrasiri Fireball

Bli-Diuma

unknown

What Horst said is the hole truth. Your plant as Jules said could be Netrasiri Fireball or could be Netrasiri Waxy or Loog Tone or what ever. I believe these three plants are the same cross but registered with different parents but thats a mess on which I don't want to get in.This are common cultivars that are sell and sold around the world.

Julio David Rios