Papilionanthe vandarum
Submitted by mitchamon on Fri, 03/10/2008 - 20:58
Papilionanthe (Aerides) vandarum
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Submitted by mitchamon on Fri, 03/10/2008 - 20:58
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TAG NAME?????
This looks like Papilionanthe vandarum. Papilionanthe Miss Joaquim is dark pink with well rounded flowers and large lip.
This is the link to Papilionanthe Miss Joaquim
http://www.mandai.com.sg/pics/orchids_douglas_lg.jpg
Tagged Aerides Miss Joaquim
Thats what was on the tag . Its normally alot darker , This year whitish with wee bit of pink but more flowers that are larger, then the previous years.
I agree that is doesnt look like Miss Joaquim going by a few links now...
another unknown orchid in my collection...
Labellum is different
The spur on the labellum is very distinctive in P.vandarum and not as much in P. Miss Joaquim
spot on migocab
this link definately confirms this plant is P.vandarum
http://www.pbase.com/schnitz/image/30705301
Been hunting down pics to try and match up and this was the closest .. its cool that there is a range of colours in this species. Thats where it started to confuse me .
Change its name tag now.
vandarum
I think that photo is a little too fuzzy to get a positive ID on this.
Mitch, any chance of a better photo????
Bill
tomorrow i'll take a clearer
tomorrow i'll take a clearer pic when its sunny ... and change the pic ...
Clearer close up of flower...
Photos have been updated of flower and pic of plant / 3 flowers at different angles ...
I hope this helps in identifying this plant.
Cheers
Mitch
Is this Papilionanthe
Is this Papilionanthe vandarum ? or another species of aerides ? label when i got it had miss joaquim on it ...
Yours is about right
I have seen Miss Joaquim and it is no where near this flower shape. It is very difficult to flower in the southern states and it requires full sun to flower. If you are growing your plant in a shed then it would not have flowered. And another thing to note is that the plant is very stiff and erect without the need of support for a couple of feet.
The spur behind the labellum is what distinguishes this plant from P. Miss Joaquim.
I have been told by a very wise man that tag(s) don't always represent a plant's identity.
i am finding that out that
i am finding that out that slowly tags can be wrong most times...
this one plant isnt supported except only by its aerial roots ... pic has stake only to be able to take a clear pic .
Alot of these plants are 3
Alot of these plants are 3 to 5m tall.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h215/tian002/Image006.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/Justikanz/SBG%20Apr%2007/IMG_5209...
http://static.flickr.com/40/106478275_a043de430e_b.jpg
http://www.cjrobbins.com/images/Singapore/Botanical%20Gardens/Nat%20Orch...
Please look at the labellum for comparison. And you will know why.
http://k53.pbase.com/u11/dougj/large/19691000.VandaMissJoaquimOrchid176_...
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_PD-GT5jQr8Y/SDAMUV_LAdI/AAAAAAAABzY/tpneDbXqpHA/Va...
Another thing is that Miss Joaquim have 8 to 10cm flowers. p vandarum have 4 to 6cm flowers.
Forget Miss J.
She is not Miss Joaquim.
I like Papilionanthe vandarum as the most likely ID.
Mitch, I think the answer is in the side lobes on the column but your photo doesn't show this detail.
Bill
the last 2 links arent
the last 2 links arent working , but flower differance i can definately tell...
the last
the last one works!! Sorry about that.
Papilionanthe Mundyi
This is Papilionanthe Mundyi . Blooms look similar to vandarum as the hybrid the blooms have taken vandarum's characteristics.
Another simple common mistake by orchid growers is mis-identifying of Papilionanthe Mundyi – a primary hybrid between (Vanda) teres and (Aerides) vandarum.
Papilionanthe vandarum is twig like and scraggly looking plant and is dwarfed by Mundyi which is a more fuller thicker leaf plant and grow alot taller and up right.
I hope this is informative.
Cheers
Mitch
Papilionanthe vandarum
Mitch, Aerdv. Mundyi has a closed column, your flower is open, also the lip structure is very different not to mention your side petals are reflexed, Mundyi has nice round and flat side petals.
I still believe your plant is Papilionanthe vandarum.
Bill
Plant size
Mitch have you seen a vandarum 4N and 6N plant? Well they are as robust as Mundyi, they don't look scraggly and can grow several feet without support.
4N and 6N
Hi Migocab,
I will hunt these down as i know the genetically modified orchids are completely different like you have pointed out more robust and other stronger features.
Thanks for the tip, its greatly appreciated .
Cheers
Mitch