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Bulbophyllum newportii

Bulbophyllum newportii (F.M.Bailey) Rolfe, Orchid Rev. 17: 94 (1909).

Subtribe: Bulbophyllinae

Distribution: Australia

Synonym: (Edited as per below discussion) Bulbophyllum trilobum Schltr., Repert. Spec. Nov. Regni Veg. 8: 455 (1910).

Bulbophyllum newportii is a true miniature plant that has egg shaped pseudobulbs which have longitudinal grooves and are spaced a short distance apart on branching rhizomes.

Get your specs out for this one...you'll need them!

Bulbophyllum newportii

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B.newportii

This is the best picture I have seen of this species.... a credit to the grower and photographer. I had a species named B.exiguum several years ago but I was unsuccessfull with the culture... unfortunately it's demise was inevitable.
bernabu

bernabu

thanks for your kind words

thanks for your kind words Bernard

Did you notice that b. exiguum is a synonym for b. newportii?

Regards wellsy

Regards wellsy

Yes

bernabu

bernabu

B. exiguum is a synonym for B. newportii?

B. exiguum is a synonym for B. newportii? I dont undestand that as I have a B exiguum, who has'nt, it flowers in autumn. Mine is budding up now. I used to have a B. newportii, it flowered in spring, its bulbs were bigger than those of B. exiguum and its flowers were more cupped then those of B. exiguum.

exiguum

What I remember of this species and I am talking from about 12 years ago, is that it was a rambler with small wrinkled psuedobulbs it never flowered for me but I understood that the flowers were supposed to be cream coloured.
bernabu

bernabu

B. exiguum var dallachyi

I just did some more checking and the synonym refers to B. exiguum F. Muell. var dallachyi Benth.

Regards wellsy

Regards wellsy

Something here doesn't look right!!!

I think West is right, Bulb. exiguum has nothing to do with Bulb. newportii.

The only listed synonym for Bulb. newportii is Bulb. trilobum, not the other three listed above, Bulbos exiguum, wilkianum and wanjuum.

Bill

Australian Indigenous Orchids

Sorry Bill but if you consult Alec Dockrill's 2nd Edition of Australian Indigenous Orchids on page 778 it lists the above cited synonyms. Do you think we should (or should not) give this volume any creedence here?

Regards wellsy

Regards wellsy

research reveals....more confusion

Further research reveals that the Monocot list believes the below to be true

Bulbophyllum exiguum var. dallachyi Benth., Fl. Austral. 6: 284 (1873).
This name is a synonym.

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Accepted Name: Bulbophyllum wilkianum T.E.Hunt, N. Queensland Naturalist 14(82): 17 (1947).

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So....I'm even more confused now!!!!

Regards wellsy

Regards wellsy

It Goes Round and Round

Sort of gets back to a blog I did earlier this month on the confusion of names, my question was "Who IS right????"
The field naturalists who live here and spend their lives studying these plants, or those far, far away ?

EVERYONE is an expert, but WHICH expert IS correct ???? :o|

Just when i get my head around nomenclature, someone corrects me and says THEIR version is correct.

How's a newbie to learn. :o(((

There's got to be ONE ACCEPTED naming of various species to make life easier................PLEASE ??????

I guess we all have to do

I guess we all have to do more research and compare what we come up with.

I have various orchid references which I have at various times consulted. These are by nature static things. Once printed they are most likely out of date. So to answer my OWN earlier question I guess we should all get used to doing the hard yards and track down ALL names on the monocot list...including all synonyms we come up with. With this in mind I just checked Bulbophyllum wanjurum (note I mispelt the name above) and came up with the below.

Bulbophyllum wanjurum T.E.Hunt, N. Queensland Naturalist 14(82): 18 (1947).
This name is a synonym.

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Accepted Name: Bulbophyllum wilkianum T.E.Hunt, N. Queensland Naturalist 14(82): 17 (1947).

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AND ALSO.....

Bulbophyllum trilobum Schltr., Repert. Spec. Nov. Regni Veg. 8: 455 (1910).
This name is a synonym.

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Accepted Name: Bulbophyllum newportii (F.M.Bailey) Rolfe, Orchid Rev. 17: 94 (1909).

So (to me at least) it appears we must continue to use all available references and then crosscheck with the monocot list to verify current thinking. Your thoughts appreciated.

Regards wellsy

Regards wellsy

I just edited the entry for

I just edited the entry for B. newportii to reflect (what I believe is) the current state of thinking as per the monocot list.

Regards wellsy

Regards wellsy

"Current State of Thinking"

Hmm. Is there a time limit on "current" ??? ;o))

What is current now, may not be in an hours time, a days time or maybe even a week's time.

Which gets back to my thoughts that there has to be a concerted effort to standardize nomenclature so that we DON'T end up with 4 fullscap pages of synonyms.
To this relative newbie to non cyms there seems too be too many fingers in the pie and every Tom Dick and Harry puts their 2 petals worth in with naming of plants.

With electronic recording these days, you would think this would make it easier to have a centralized database somewhere, where a concensus of opinion could be reached on a standardized nomenclature on certain species.

The biologists who do the DNA research could have access to update appropriately rather than having a lot of journals without much cred deciding on their own naming nomenclature.

Maybe I am too much of a lateral thinker. :o/

Anton

Bulbophyllum species names

Of the 3000 Bulbophyllum species names which have been submitted to to the RHS since records began, over 1000 have been reduced to synonomy.
It is only in the last 30 years or so that a few dedicated taxonomist have taken up the serious and daunting task of tackling this large and unweildy, but nevertheless fascinating genus.
Slowly, very slowly we are seeing results of this work but there is still a long way to go.
I think that in a case study like the one we have here (B.newportii)it would be wise to be content with the current name accepted by the International Authority. If the synononyms are contentious, rather than get 'bogged down', it should be sufficient to stay with the accepted name only. Until such times that the matter can be resolved.
bernabu

bernabu

Taxonomy

Hi Anton, I thought that you might be interested in the following information.There is an International Body which serves as an Advisory Panel on Orchid Hybrid Registration (APOHR) also Taxonomy and Plant genetics. They are as follows: Mr Ian Chalmers (Australia), Dr Phillip Cribb (UK), Dr Robert Griesbach (USA) Mr Peter Hunt (UK), Dr Tom Sheenon (USA), Mrs Joyce Stewart (UK)
Dr Toshinora Tanaka (Japan), Dr Masanori Tomita (Japan) Mr Yoshitaka Ueda (Japan), Prof Mark Chase (UK) Mr Christopherr Purver (UK-Jersey).
I'm sure you agree that with the introduction of Genetics DNA and Cladistics that taxonomy is an exacting science and appears to move at a snails pace, but to us amateurs when we do get information on name changes etc, frustratingly, we seem to get it in abundance. Good business for the plant label manufacturers.
bernabu

bernabu

Good Business

AND good business for the pencil manufacturers, producing pencils for the poor growers who go through them at a great rate from changing name tags. ;o))